cbarnett Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 (edited) I wanted to try to tackle creating a way to derive ratings that we could use so we didn't have to wait on a different league to do our rerates. I was going to attempt to tackle this by myself but thought a collaborative approach would work better than just creating it myself, then defending it / adding feedback at a later date. My sources are the FHLSim manual, and thecphl’s ratings guide. Advanced statistics leveraged from http://moneypuck.com/stats.htm and https://www.naturalstattrick.com/. Justifications and thought processes are mine. I define the ratings as follows: < 50: Very Poor 50-59: Poor 60-69: Below Average 70-75: Average 76-79: Above Average 80-89: Great >89: Exceptional Edited July 21, 2021 by cbarnett Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbarnett Posted July 21, 2021 Author Share Posted July 21, 2021 (edited) Intensity FHLSim Manual Description This is the player's ability to play at his peak level every shift on the ice. Skaters CPHL Rating for Skaters BASE 60 – PLUS 1 FOR EVERY 10 HITS, PRO-RATED (60 + [{HITS/GP * 82} / 10]) Proposed Rating for Skaters BASE 50 + ROUND(Share Of Possible Icetime in Regular Season + (Share of Possible Icetime in Playoffs / 10) ) Thought Process Using hits as a measure to determine a player’s ability to play at a consistent level for the whole game doesn’t make sense to me. It makes more sense to me to measure this by how much a team choses to play a player. I have done testing on this over the course of the last couple of seasons, especially on my team in the NSHL. In the first season I took over ownership I placed dead last. I took a look at statistics history in the D/NSHL and noticed that high intensity rating players did not tend to generate more hits than an average player and that hits seemed to be more of a composite stat between Strength, Defense, and low Discipline. In the second season I made upgrades that preferentially targeted players that were average to above average with great to exceptional Intensity ratings. I placed second. In my third season, both Brian and Kevin noticed what I did and made similar improvements to their teams. Kevin returned to the playoffs after missing the season before and Brian won our division by a mile. To give an example of what this means using players, Connor McDavid is widely considered to be the most consistent centerman in the NHL. His intensity rating is 65 which means the simmer thinks he is a below average performer from shift to shift. By comparison, the most consistent player in the D/NFHL would be Ryan Reaves at intensity rating 96. This does not make sense. Under my proposed rating Connor McDavid’s intensity would be 91 whereas Ryan Reaves would be at intensity rating 68. Goaltenders CPHL Rating for Goaltenders BASED ON TOTALS OF SAVE %, GAA CHARTS PLUS WINS AND SHUTOUTS…. DIVIDED BY FOUR. THEN ADJUSTED FOR THE GOALTENDERS STYLE AND TRAITS. Edited July 21, 2021 by cbarnett formatting + goalie CPHL stuff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbarnett Posted July 21, 2021 Author Share Posted July 21, 2021 (edited) Speed FHLSim Manual Description This is the player's skating speed, which is both acceleration and raw speed. Skaters CPHL Rating for Skaters SUBJECTIVE (YOUNG UNPROVEN PLAYERS BASE 60) Proposed Rating for Skaters BELL CURVE 50-99 (Rush Attempts in Regular Season + Rush Attempts in Playoffs) + (Takeaways in Regular Season + Takeaways in Playoffs) Thought Process The CPHL gives no indication how they judge speed. I prefer trying to make things deterministic where I can. The reason for using a bell curve is to make all of the players' statistics relative to each other while binding them to the 50-99 scale. This should hopefully balance out the effect a nonstandard length season has. In offensive situations, rush attempts are the only publicly tracked statistic I could think of to contribute to speed. In a normal season with 82 games (using 2018/19), the top 5 regular season leaders were Brad Marchand (24), Brendan Gallagher (24), Kasperi Kapanen (22), Evander Kane (20, and David Pastrnak (18). A takeaway is a forced action taken by a defensive player to regain possession of the puck for his team. For a turnover to be called a takeaway, it must be done by a defensive player and pressure must be applied to the opposing team. I feel like this is a good measure of speed in a defensive situation as the player pressuring must be fast enough to get to and pressure the puck away. The top five regular season leaders for 18/19 were Mark Stone (122), Aleksander Barkov (100), Connor McDavid (99), Ryan O’Reilly (94), and Brent Burns (88). This is by no means perfect but the NHL is implementing chip tracking in all arenas which means that more advanced statistics on Speed will be available soon and we can rework this when that new data is available. Goaltenders CPHL Rating for Goaltenders BASED ON TOTALS OF SAVE %, GAA CHARTS PLUS WINS AND SHUTOUTS…. DIVIDED BY FOUR. THEN ADJUSTED FOR THE GOALTENDERS STYLE AND TRAITS. Edited July 21, 2021 by cbarnett formatting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbarnett Posted July 21, 2021 Author Share Posted July 21, 2021 (edited) Strength FHLSim Manual Description This rating affects the player's ability to work in the corners, in front of the net, etc. Skaters CPHL Rating for Skaters BASE 70 = 6’0 180 LBS. PLUS 1 FOR EACH INCH OVER 6’0 & MINUS 1 FOR EACH INCH UNDER PLUS 1 FOR EACH 5 LBS. OVER 180 & MINUS 1 FOR EACH 5 LBS. UNDER 180 Proposed Rating for Skaters No change, this seems fine to me. Thought Process This reflects players’ ability to get stronger through working out. It is often the goal of the shorter (by NHL standards) players to add muscle mass onto their frame in order to not be displaced from the puck as easily. Goaltenders CPHL Rating for Goaltenders BASE 70 = 6’0 180 LBS. PLUS 1 FOR EACH INCH OVER 6’0 & MINUS 1 FOR EACH INCH UNDER PLUS 1 FOR EACH 5 LBS. OVER 180 & MINUS 1 FOR EACH 5 LBS. UNDER 180 Proposed Rating for Goaltenders No change, this seems fine to me. Thought Process This reflects players’ ability to get stronger through working out. It is often the goal of the shorter (by NHL standards) players to add muscle mass onto their frame in order to not be displaced from the puck as easily. Edited July 21, 2021 by cbarnett added goalie stuff, formatting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbarnett Posted July 21, 2021 Author Share Posted July 21, 2021 (edited) Endurance FHLSim Manual Description The endurance rating allows players to take more and longer shifts during the game. Skaters CPHL Rating for Skaters ALL PLAYERS BASE 65, PLUS AVERAGE MINUTES PLAYED PER GAME FOR A TOTAL. Eg. 65 PLUS 18 MINUTES PER GAME = 83 Proposed Rating for Skaters Thought Process Goaltenders CPHL Rating for Goaltenders BASE 99, MODIFIED DOWN FOR REDUCED ACTION Proposed Rating for Goaltenders Thought Process Edited July 21, 2021 by cbarnett added goalie stuff, formatting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbarnett Posted July 21, 2021 Author Share Posted July 21, 2021 (edited) Durability FHLSim Manual Description The durability rating is directly proportional to how often a player will come out of a game unhurt. Skaters CPHL Rating for Skaters 82 GAMES PLAYED = 99, MINUS 1 FOR EACH GAME MISSED (MIN. 25) Proposed Rating for Skaters Thought Process Goaltenders CPHL Rating for Goaltenders 99 BASE MINUS 1 FOR EACH GAME UNDER 50 Proposed Rating for Goaltenders Thought Process Edited July 21, 2021 by cbarnett Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbarnett Posted July 21, 2021 Author Share Posted July 21, 2021 (edited) Discipline FHLSim Manual Description A player with a low discipline rating takes more penalties and is more likely to fight when combined with Intensity. Skaters CPHL Rating for Skaters BASE 99 MINUS 1 FOR EACH 5 PENALTY MINUTES (MINIMUM 25) Proposed Rating for Skaters Thought Process Goaltenders CPHL Rating for Goaltenders BASE 99 MINUS 1 FOR EACH 5 PENALTY MINUTES (MINIMUM 25) Proposed Rating for Goaltenders Thought Process Edited July 21, 2021 by cbarnett Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbarnett Posted July 21, 2021 Author Share Posted July 21, 2021 (edited) Skating FHLSim Manual Description This rating affects the player's ability to balance and move in all four directions. Skaters CPHL Rating for Skaters SUBJECTIVE (YOUNG PLAYERS BASE 60) Proposed Rating for Skaters Goaltenders CPHL Rating for Goaltenders BASED ON TOTALS OF SAVE %, GAA CHARTS PLUS WINS AND SHUTOUTS…. DIVIDED BY FOUR. THEN ADJUSTED FOR THE GOALTENDERS STYLE AND TRAITS. Proposed Rating for Goaltenders Thought Process Edited July 21, 2021 by cbarnett Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbarnett Posted July 21, 2021 Author Share Posted July 21, 2021 (edited) Passing FHLSim Manual Description The passing rating represents how good the player is at moving the puck or setting players up in scoring position. Skaters CPHL Rating for Skaters BASE 40 PLUS 1 FOR EACH ASSIST UP TO A TOTAL “90” (50 ASSISTS) PLUS 1 FOR EACH 5 ASSISTS AFTER 50, (MAXIMUM 99) Proposed Rating for Skaters Goaltenders CPHL Rating for Goaltenders SUBJECTIVE BASED ON GOALIES PASSING SKILLS. Proposed Rating for Goaltenders Thought Process Edited July 21, 2021 by cbarnett Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbarnett Posted July 21, 2021 Author Share Posted July 21, 2021 (edited) Puck Control FHLSim Manual Description A high puck control rating means the player is more likely to shoot and less likely to give the puck away. Skaters CPHL Rating for Skaters PA AND SC ADDED, AND DIVIDED BY 2 PLUS ONE FOR EACH PERCENT OVER 50 ON FACEOFFS. EG 53% = 3 MORE ON PC. Proposed Rating for Skaters Goaltenders CPHL Rating for Goaltenders BASED ON TOTALS OF SAVE %, GAA CHARTS PLUS WINS AND SHUTOUTS…. DIVIDED BY FOUR. THEN ADJUSTED FOR THE GOALTENDERS STYLE AND TRAITS. Proposed Rating for Goaltenders Thought Process Edited July 21, 2021 by cbarnett Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbarnett Posted July 21, 2021 Author Share Posted July 21, 2021 (edited) Defense FHLSim Manual Description A high defensive rating affects a players' ability to break up passes, rushes and cover offensive players. Skaters CPHL Rating SUBJECTIVE, PLUS MINUS AND OTHER MEASURES ARE TEAM BASED Proposed Rating Edited July 21, 2021 by cbarnett Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbarnett Posted July 21, 2021 Author Share Posted July 21, 2021 (edited) Scoring FHLSim Manual Description This is the players' ability to put the puck in the net and also to create scoring opportunities without the puck. Skaters CPHL Rating BASE 50 FOR FORWARDS, PLUS 1 PER GOAL FOR FORWARDS FOR THE FIRST 40 GOALS. PLUS 1 FOR EACH 3 GOALS OVER 40. BASE 50 FOR DEFENCE, PLUS 2 FOR EVERY GOAL FOR FIRST 20 GOALS. PLUS 1 FOR EVERY GOAL AFTER 20. Proposed Rating Edited July 21, 2021 by cbarnett Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbarnett Posted July 21, 2021 Author Share Posted July 21, 2021 (edited) Experience FHLSim Manual Description Experienced players tend to be more consistent from one game to the next, and tend to be more effective in close games. Skaters CPHL Rating for Skaters BASE 50 PLUS 1 FOR EVERY 30 GAMES PLAYED, PLUS 1 FOR EVERY 8 PLAYOFF GAMES. (MAXIMUM 99) Proposed Rating for Skaters Goaltenders CPHL Rating for Goaltenders BASE 50 PLUS 1 FOR EVERY 30 GAMES PLAYED, PLUS 1 FOR EVERY 8 PLAYOFF GAMES. (MAXIMUM 99) Proposed Rating for Goaltenders Thought Process Edited July 21, 2021 by cbarnett Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbarnett Posted July 21, 2021 Author Share Posted July 21, 2021 (edited) Leadership FHLSim Manual Description Experienced players tend to be more consistent from one game to the next, and tend to be more effective in close games. Skaters CPHL Rating for Skaters SUBJECTIVE RATING, LOOSELY TIED TO EXPERIENCE Proposed Rating for Skaters Goaltenders CPHL Rating for Goaltenders SUBJECTIVE RATING, LOOSELY TIED TO EXPERIENCE Proposed Rating for Goaltenders Thought Process Edited July 21, 2021 by cbarnett Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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